I was gonna write a long post about 14×01, but then I realized that I’m tired and my brain is just as Kentucky-fried as Asmodeus.
All I wanted to say can be summarized like this:
“I’m sorry, did you just say that you lost a Winchester? Because one, that’s… interesting! And two, how is it that you lost Dean? I thought the two of you were joined at the… you know, everything.”
Apparently, demons don’t beat around the bush, and the only ones who have missed the memo about Dean and Cas are, precisely, Dean and Cas.
all i have seen of 14×01 is some badass cas gifs and that Very Gay Thing. and people complaining that cas can’t see the demons/can’t fight. like i said i haven’t seen the episode but how about it’s because of, well… dean?
Yesssssss…this was a theory I had and was going to follow up on when my ridiculous self didn’t have to be at work in 6 hours. But…remember at the start of S10 when Cas was fading fast and nearly human? Yes, it was his stolen grace not taking to his body, definitely. But what it it was also missing Dean?
“Pining” actually originally meant starving. So when you were pining for someone you were hungering, starving for them. So when we talk about “pining Cas” we’re actually saying he’s starved for Dean–which I think he is. It could definitely affect his powers. I kind of hope so.
!!! yes yes and three times yes. i do feel like, if dabb decided on this, he did it on purpose and i just hope that it’ll be spoken about later. still have to watch the ep but i mean, an episode where dean and cas are connected at the dick everything is already gay anyway
really interested to see if there’s any possibilities in interpreting it all
fuck it one last thing.
remember our lord and savior, end!cas? he lost his grace/powers overtime as well, again, inherently because of dean. dean was there but he changed immensely.
cas changed with dean so much he went human in canon already, just sayin ¯_(ツ)_/¯
As romantic as the sentiment is and as pro DeanCas as I am, I’d say that sentiment is more metaphorically accurate than it is in canon law. However, the same concept can remain.
Endverse!Cas – who yes, chose his path because of Dean – stayed behind as the angels pulled away and it’s like the connection to the divine spheres tanked and he went mortal.
That can still theoretically be applied here, with only a tiny handful of angels remaining, a few more dead since, and heaven barely keeping the lights on. Imagining them fueling out a long term power source is… actually kind of ridiculous. He could very well be on the Endverse!Cas path right now.
That said, it’s still sloppy of them to have presented the whole thing the way they did and we can hope to get answers soon (rather than it be overlooked.) For as much forced exposition as they shoved out of Mary’s mouth, a simple “Cas has been draining” wedged in there wouldn’t have been any worse even if we explained it later.
Add in, yes, long term separated from Dean as his charge, hard to say.
all i have seen of 14×01 is some badass cas gifs and that Very Gay Thing. and people complaining that cas can’t see the demons/can’t fight. like i said i haven’t seen the episode but how about it’s because of, well… dean?
Yesssssss…this was a theory I had and was going to follow up on when my ridiculous self didn’t have to be at work in 6 hours. But…remember at the start of S10 when Cas was fading fast and nearly human? Yes, it was his stolen grace not taking to his body, definitely. But what it it was also missing Dean?
“Pining” actually originally meant starving. So when you were pining for someone you were hungering, starving for them. So when we talk about “pining Cas” we’re actually saying he’s starved for Dean–which I think he is. It could definitely affect his powers. I kind of hope so.
!!! yes yes and three times yes. i do feel like, if dabb decided on this, he did it on purpose and i just hope that it’ll be spoken about later. still have to watch the ep but i mean, an episode where dean and cas are connected at the dick everything is already gay anyway
really interested to see if there’s any possibilities in interpreting it all
fuck it one last thing.
remember our lord and savior, end!cas? he lost his grace/powers overtime as well, again, inherently because of dean. dean was there but he changed immensely.
cas changed with dean so much he went human in canon already, just sayin ¯_(ツ)_/¯
it’s funny how you feel that you are “tired of headcanoning” things whereas it’s canon that Cas’ falling also had to do with dean. yes, it is mainly because of the angels disconnecting/leaving/grace/whatever you call it. but. let’s just say he falls twice as hard and fast and painful EVERY time dean isn’t there to catch him. Cas was alright as a human when he was with Dean and Sam. and then Dean kicked him out and he started failing at being human. Steve. Purgatory. End!Cas. You could even throw Crazy!Cas in the mix here.
But yeah, tired of headcanoning. Meta writers 🙄
I’m… not arguing with you? Just pointing out a difference in metaphor and physics? Endverse Cas had fairly distinct physics involved, which were also mirrored in 5.21 when Cas was cut off from the spheres. Metaphor is lovely, and a fantastic story employs metaphor to deepen the elements – and I do agree with your metaphor. However, well employed metaphor tends to also employ physics, no differently than knowing if you are turning right or left; right and left can have intrinsic meanings, but the actual act of turning is its own force there too. The turn takes you to your destination, right or wrong, wherein the path and the crossways are your metaphor. For a viewer to witness the moral ramifications of a crossroad and their paths, there must first be a crossroad, so to speak.
Because when it comes to canon, we have the physics we can argue and the potential readings of the metaphor – which, again, I agreed with your metaphor. But unfortunately not everyone will read the metaphor identically; some will even read it very closely but with variance. And that’s ironically also a headcanon. A well-assembled, educated, well-pontificated headcanon, but still a headcanon to read “Cas loses his powers without Dean.”
Yes, we see this employed – easily. But there’s even metaphors and morals in that. Cas’ failure once ejected from the bunker was metaphorical power loss, not literal. He was already depleted; he lost his sense of place and home, and it was terrible and painful. Dean has been his gauge through the human world and without it, he was lost.
But without the establishment of “on multiple occasions separations from divine spheres as power sources cause depletion,” calling out the metaphor makes a difficult reading to convey to an audience. Again – one I agree with, as apparently I need to emphasize that in the… sub-noted blog that was missed – but mechanic alongside metaphor.
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