but that feels so cheap to me and I hate asking for tips when I’m literally producing grief and ugliness and nothing beautiful
So I don’t know anymore
What would you do?
I think you have every right to ask for tips when you’ve been giving us incredible art for free for years, and gotten back little but grief and abuse. If you started a Patreon I’d be glad to sign up for it.
You may know Elicia as Euclase, and you’ve definitely seen and loved her art.
The amount of cruelty and harassment she receives on a daily basis is unspeakable and unforgivable, and honestly, I think the least we can do is send her a tip to, in some small way, try and help her through this misery.
If you can afford it, please go and donate $3 or more and say something kind to let her know you care and you appreciate her work. If you have a PayPal account, it will only take a few seconds.
And please, for the love of God, do not send her hate or criticize her. If you’re not here to support her, shut the fuck up and mind your own business.
Listen.
I’m not going to send her hate, or be rude to her in any way. She blocked me so she shouldn’t see this at all.
She has been incredibly rude to me personally while I have never in my life said anything negative to her or about her. I was always on her side sending love and support and fighting off haters and being nice. I believed that all the hate she got was real and horrible and I needed to help her and do something. I did for years, even though I have never gotten a single message or appreciation in return.
Until she hijacked one of my posts and started insulting me for no reason. She called me names, insulted me several times, then deleted all those posts, blocked me, and, as I’ve heard, started vague posting about me afterward, playing the victim.
I had not said anything about her in that post. The post literally mentioned that I love every single creator in the destiel fandom. That’s all that was in there. And she turned it into a negative post about how everyone is horrible to her and directed it towards me as a person, as if I, someone who supported and loved her for years before, represented her haters (or as she calls it; the destiel fandom, because we all hate her in her eyes.)
No, she does not deserve the hate that she actually gets from people. No, she does not deserve to die or whatever if that’s bullshit people tell her.
But she is not a nice person, to put it very lightly. She hurt me and a lot of other people I know that did nothing, and I repeat nothing wrong.
Yes, whoever is angry now can be blind and block me. That is up to you, and not my problem. I just know that what I say is honest and that I do not respect her anymore.
The following things are true:
Euclase is a fantastic artist
However, Euclase gets a variety of negative anon messages
Unsure of where to direct her anger, she sometimes turns it on her supporters
She has been very vicious to some people who have been nothing but kind to her
It is anyone’s right to continue to support her due to valuing her art, which takes time and skill
However, jimminovak is a good bean and one of the people who have caught her ire
I highly suggest people continue to follow jimminovak and respect if people choose not to donate to Euclase. And if you still want to donate to Euclase – that’s great, she does great work for the fandom. But also a “do be warned” for people for the future.
All of the above things can be true at the same time. 🙂 I just wanted to give to support to rose since I know her opinion is very valid and I know some people may not understand this from the outside.
BTW, the anti-destiel fans responding to @sassycaslovesdean by sending hate and yelling that destiel shippers are “everything that is wrong with the fandom” are everything wrong with the fandom. While other Destiel shippers are responding politely with a different pov, btw. Antis can generalize all they want but I’m seeing so many Destiel fans saying “no wait, Sam isn’t any less Jack’s dad” and offering reasonable meta as a response.
The OP was giving an opinion not hating on anyone, and relevant discussion is coming from it. The anti-destiel fans are attacking the OP with insults, generalizations, and character hate while the OP’s fellow destiel shippers are holding reasonable character discussion. It’s bad meta and knee-jerk attacking and grudgewanking not discussion.
Below the cut a sampling of the derailing and pointless negativity, fan bashing, and anti-ing from the anti-destiels, which I’m addressing here instead of responding directly because a) I don’t feel like talking to them they’re so unreasonable and b) so I don’t mess up sassycas’s notifications with fighting:
man, i thought i got testy with op. it’s nothing compared to the others in their replies. EESH.
and i’m sad to see one of them being someone who nicely asked if they could use a gif of mine. another person who uses my content, but hates a part of my fandom joys.
this moment about sam remembering jack’s birthday?
dean blanks completely and sam remembers exactly.
sam remembers for the same reason dean forgot: it was one of the worst days of their lives.
their mom is gone. their best friend was murdered. and they had what they thought was a scary powerful creature on the loose.
and what i think is amazing is that even though it was the worst day, it was the start of a significant and beautiful change in their lives.
For the love of god, please keep this destiel-shipping, Sam-and-Jared-hating piece of shit and her horrid posts off my dash. I already blocked her in 50 different ways. What else do I have to do here? CASGIRLSAM IS AN ASSHOLE WHO SPENDS MOST OF HER TWITTER TIME ATTACKING PEOPLE AND TALKING SHIT ABOUT JARED WITH HER DISGUSTING BEST FRIEND CAROL HANSSON. Now maybe she can block me and I’ll be rid of her for good.
lol wut
@theyjustdontgetitdothey lol what? talking shit about Jared? You mean her favorite cast member? the one who is literally her profile picture EVERYWHERE?
What are you smoking and where can I get some?
people like that have been like this since before i joined the fandom. they think you can’t possibly love destiel AND sam or be a fan of misha AND j2.
it’s pure projection. they ship wincest and hate cas and they “love” j2 and hate misha, so obviously the reverse must be true. or so their logic goes.
like our pal diane? she had to go back TWO YEARS to find anything she deemed hateful and it was stuff like “wow sam is so tired of dean and cas’s shit lol” and “man jared really disappointed me with his behavior the other day.”
and what i love is that my friend they mentioned? carol? her crime was she forgot to add jared and the always keep fighting campaign to an article about spn charities which she amended and apologized for.
when was this? you’re probably thinking. surely that must have been recent since they’re obviously still upset.
nope. it’s been a year and they’re STILL TO THIS DAY yelling at her about it. she even got to the point where she apologized TO JARED and they yelled at her for THAT because apologies are selfish or some such nonsense.
and yet they still label her as a “heller” and a jared hater despite her being a non-shipper and jared being her absolute favorite. all because of one article and because she’s friends with people who aren’t in the bronly lane. that’s legit it.
Lol what the fuck they came on YOUR post which has nothing romantic on it to moan about you being on their dash for stuff completely irrelevant to this post.
You’re oh their dash because people reblog your posts because they’re great and clearly are Sam positive which is what they follow people for.
If you’re blocked they won’t see your posts. It ain’t hard. If they do for some reason they can scroll by. Or you know just enjoy the stuff that they might like, such as the Sam and brother positive stuff. Wow I know it’s hard to compute not being an asshole but there you go.
This is one of the most hilarious bronly bullshit I’ve seen in ages. What a laugh! They really just show their colours as morons and assholes with this kinda shit.
oh for sure! what’s funny is i’m not blocked
so either they’re mixing me up with someone else, lying, or tumblr goofed
this moment about sam remembering jack’s birthday?
dean blanks completely and sam remembers exactly.
sam remembers for the same reason dean forgot: it was one of the worst days of their lives.
their mom is gone. their best friend was murdered. and they had what they thought was a scary powerful creature on the loose.
and what i think is amazing is that even though it was the worst day, it was the start of a significant and beautiful change in their lives.
For the love of god, please keep this destiel-shipping, Sam-and-Jared-hating piece of shit and her horrid posts off my dash. I already blocked her in 50 different ways. What else do I have to do here? CASGIRLSAM IS AN ASSHOLE WHO SPENDS MOST OF HER TWITTER TIME ATTACKING PEOPLE AND TALKING SHIT ABOUT JARED WITH HER DISGUSTING BEST FRIEND CAROL HANSSON. Now maybe she can block me and I’ll be rid of her for good.
lol wut
@theyjustdontgetitdothey lol what? talking shit about Jared? You mean her favorite cast member? the one who is literally her profile picture EVERYWHERE?
What are you smoking and where can I get some?
people like that have been like this since before i joined the fandom. they think you can’t possibly love destiel AND sam or be a fan of misha AND j2.
it’s pure projection. they ship wincest and hate cas and they “love” j2 and hate misha, so obviously the reverse must be true. or so their logic goes.
like our pal diane? she had to go back TWO YEARS to find anything she deemed hateful and it was stuff like “wow sam is so tired of dean and cas’s shit lol” and “man jared really disappointed me with his behavior the other day.”
and what i love is that my friend they mentioned? carol? her crime was she forgot to add jared and the always keep fighting campaign to an article about spn charities which she amended and apologized for.
when was this? you’re probably thinking. surely that must have been recent since they’re obviously still upset.
nope. it’s been a year and they’re STILL TO THIS DAY yelling at her about it. she even got to the point where she apologized TO JARED and they yelled at her for THAT because apologies are selfish or some such nonsense.
and yet they still label her as a “heller” and a jared hater despite her being a non-shipper and jared being her absolute favorite. all because of one article and because she’s friends with people who aren’t in the bronly lane. that’s legit it.
When Destiel shippers are accused of seeing Destiel everywhere but antis are the one bringing Destiel in a non Destiel post calling Cas “Sam AND Dean’s best friend”… Dearest logic where did you go?
destiel wasn’t the focus of my post. yes, when you look at it from dean’s pov, it screams destiel. but i wasn’t going to focus on it because that post was about their worst day being the day their lives changed for the better. it was about becoming fathers.
BUT NO IT WAS DESTIEL IN DISGUISE BECAUSE IDK LOGIC
this moment about sam remembering jack’s birthday?
dean blanks completely and sam remembers exactly.
sam remembers for the same reason dean forgot: it was one of the worst days of their lives.
their mom is gone. their best friend was murdered. and they had what they thought was a scary powerful creature on the loose.
and what i think is amazing is that even though it was the worst day, it was the start of a significant and beautiful change in their lives.
For the love of god, please keep this destiel-shipping, Sam-and-Jared-hating piece of shit and her horrid posts off my dash. I already blocked her in 50 different ways. What else do I have to do here? CASGIRLSAM IS AN ASSHOLE WHO SPENDS MOST OF HER TWITTER TIME ATTACKING PEOPLE AND TALKING SHIT ABOUT JARED WITH HER DISGUSTING BEST FRIEND CAROL HANSSON. Now maybe she can block me and I’ll be rid of her for good.
lol wut
i’m over here actually having mostly enjoyed 14×07 without having to mock or degrade anyone over parts i didn’t/to raise my faves up and yet meanwhile, people on my twitter tl and in tptb’s mentions are yelling at each other and yelling at tptb and i’m really really annoyed and want everyone to STOP IT
If you’re reading Destiel out of metas that don’t even discuss Destiel or bi-Dean, such as independent or growing brother metas, or team free will parenting Jack, or current active major plot mechanics, or basic states of address on surrounding environments or basic events transcribed act-for-act, maybe it’s not the people typing these things without even talking about Destiel or Castiel that you have the problem with.
I just read a dean stan saying that our metas reduce dean to a one dimensional character and tbh I’m cackling so hard I can’t even compute the stupid. If you’re reading our meta analysis that literally, the whole point, is tearing down the one dimensional performance TO talk about the layers and the other side of himself that he hides and coming away from that thinking we are saying he’s actually one dimensional I don’t think it’s us that are the problem either. If they’re misreading both the show and the clear, obvious analysis we write that’s literally pointing it out then… I don’t see any hope for them.
Idk. Get some Gatorade to boost the mind process or something, at this point I don’t know how to even try to fix the stupid.
we probably saw the same one. i saw someone say that we just want to reduce dean to the perfect housewife because dean loves to take care of people? idk, man. they’re wild.
dean is complex. he’s a warrior AND a caretaker. a fighter AND a lover. he’s what monsters have nightmares about at night AND a domestic god. he likes classic rock AND taylor swift. he likes pie AND cake. etc etc etc forever and ever
they think metas touching on his domestic and caring side are reducing him and it’s NOT. like you said, it’s talking about his other more softer layers because he has layers like any good character.
im not even a dean-focused fan and i understand dean a lot more than these so-called dean stans that want him to force himself to always be in charge and not slow down and heal because that’s what THEY want.
s14 is proving to the audience that dean doesn’t have to be in charge all the time for a compelling story and it’s proving to dean that he can do what he wants and no one is going to die because of him taking his time with life.
she is loving the attention. stop giving it to her. report and block when you come across her posts, loves. arguing with her is literally pointless. her posts are unhinged and nonsensical.
so please if you come across @/go-diane-winchester, REPORT AND BLOCK DO NOT ENGAGE
Heed the warning, folks. You do not want to engage, because the individual is perhaps more unhinged than the one who video-ranted about destiel fans before seacon a few years ago.
Many of you who spend time on YouTube may recognize Diane from her vicious comment trolling.
Look I hate blocking people, it feels like I’m letting them get to me, and I hate that. But I blocked her today, as I’ve seen her get more and more wild in her arguments to the point that I genuinely think something is wrong with her in the boil the bunny kind of way.
Please. Do not engage
This is good advice in general in this bar. I don’t block, and generally I laugh at the looney shit out of that lane. Hell, I’ve laughed at her and enjoyed her delirium before but it’s hitting some next level one flew over the cuckoo’s nest level at this point. I’m pretty sure, with no sarcasm or irony, this woman is legitimately unstable past the point you can even dust off.
Oh that’s the one who claims that some people in the cast are rapists ?
Why crazy people are always too familiar with incest ?
just misha from what i can see and anyone that talks to jensen about destiel 🤷♀️
she is loving the attention. stop giving it to her. report and block when you come across her posts, loves. arguing with her is literally pointless. her posts are unhinged and nonsensical.
so please if you come across @/go-diane-winchester, REPORT AND BLOCK DO NOT ENGAGE
Heed the warning, folks. You do not want to engage, because the individual is perhaps more unhinged than the one who video-ranted about destiel fans before seacon a few years ago.
Many of you who spend time on YouTube may recognize Diane from her vicious comment trolling.
Look I hate blocking people, it feels like I’m letting them get to me, and I hate that. But I blocked her today, as I’ve seen her get more and more wild in her arguments to the point that I genuinely think something is wrong with her in the boil the bunny kind of way.
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