My non-shipper friend that held reservation on the idea of Mobby decided to put trust in Mobby after seeing the Destiel cosplay pictures. @casgirlsam can confirm.
I can’t even anymore.
This is literally-
This is the point we’re at, folks.
yep it was glorious
*looks at bts photos* “oh they’re definitely going with mobby then”
✗ STOP harassing SPN actors on the show over your ship ✗ STOP bashing Jensen Ackles for not supporting your ship ✗ STOP bullying, threatening and harassing other shippers within the SPN fandom for not shipping or supporting Destiel ✗ STOP invading other shipper tags that isn’t the Destiel tag ✗ STOP bullying and harassing the SPN writers over your ship ✗ STOP calling Jensen Ackles homophobic for not shipping/liking Destiel ✗ STOP bashing J2′s families (including their kids) for not supporting Destiel ✗ STOP complaining about Supernatural being about the Winchester brothers ✗ STOP asking Destiel questions or ship-related questions to actors at cons ✗ STOP trying to push for Destiel to become canon on the show (because it’s NEVER going to happen) ✗ STOP disrespecting people for not supporting your ship ✗ STOP using Destiel as a tool for LGBTQ+ representation on television (it’s very problematic, especially when the characters are canonically not gay to begin with) ✗ STOP trying to erase Sam and Dean’s relationship and bond to suit Destiel ✗ STOP forcing others into trying to ship Destiel ✗ STOP harassing Jensen on social media (Twitter AND Facebook) by insulting him and sending him death threats just because he doesn’t ship or support Destiel ✗ STOP erasing Sam Winchester from the show or the narrative to prop up Destiel ✗ STOP bashing Jared Padalecki for getting in the way of “Cockles” ✗ STOP bashing Sam Winchester because you feel he gets in the way of Destiel happening ✗ STOP making Sam Winchester a cheerleader for Destiel on the show ✗ STOP erasing Dean Winchester’s canon sexuality (which is straight or heterosexual) in order to cater to your ship ✗ STOP making everything that happens on the show about Destiel
✗ JUST STOP.
DESTIEL EXISTS
Let me get this straight.
1. We DON’T harrass Spn actors over our ship. If someone from the destiel fandom ever does so ( chances are nearly zero), we got the guts to effectively call them out.
2. We DON’T bully their wives and their family because they dont support our ship or whatever. THIS, in fact is the primary characteristic of the J2 tinhats who hate on Danneel, Gen, Misha and even JJ.
3. We DON’T “erase” Sam from the narrative to prop up our ship. INFACT, every good Destiel fanfic I’ve read has a very well structured storyline for Sam. AND, most of the destiel shippers ADORE Sam( I mean, who doesn’t right!?). Just because the i*cest shippers tend to exclude Cas and hate on Misha doesn’t mean WE, the destiel shippers stoop down to their level. Pff.
4. We don’t make everything that happens on the show about destiel. Destiel is literally ingrained on the depths of the show. Its there. Its in the canon. Whether or not one can see it, the facts remain. Idc,ship whatever you want ( except incest and pedophilia) but please stop trying to invalidate other’s ships.
5. Basically what Im trying to say is, get your facts straight. And we’re good.
I mean, I don’t know what else to add. The projection here is STRONG.
√ We don’t harass the crew, In fact, whenever antis see it get “too Destiel” in the show, they pour into TPTB’s mentions yelling about pandering. Like, something supposedly doesn’t exist, but is there enough to yell about pandering. Doublecheck.
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√ Uh, we don’t? In fact, we generally defend him and say it’s antis choosing to spin his quotes entirely out of context and paint him in a bad light to future studios in an increasingly queer-positive culture? There’s a few outliers in FakeWoke, which may at times have overlap with Destiel fans, since Destiel fandom is so huge, but we call them out and shut them down. Don’t get it all twisted in your head.
√ “Stop invading other ship tags,” says the wing of the fandom that compulsively can’t stop shitposting into the Destiel fandom tag bitching about nonsensical trash for a week, with no actual receipts of anyone invading any fandom tags. The closest I’ve seen is someone losing their shit about a post I tagged #megstiel critical, which apparently puts it into the #megstiel tag cuz reasons (and despite my disclaimer that I don’t tumblr often and know all the rodeo rules, everybody planted in their head as some sinister plan to piss them off, because you guys literally can’t stop ship warring), which wasn’t even Destielcentric, but used each other as a foil against themselves in dual narrative painting. With an extra disclaimer. And a cut. Meaning people can choose to open it or not. Self care is in your ballpark, m8.
√ Again, we don’t. That would be the antis and tinhats. See
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√ Again, we don’t. That would be the antis and tinhats. See above reply. It’s funny that y’all can’t separate your horse shit when at the same time tinhats just cocked up a huge (bullshit) narrative about Destiel fans “pretending” to be wife fans in some Misha-led conspiracy, because it’s public knowledge their wives are adored. Even this side of the fence’s tinhat ship (of which I am not part) has an inclusive narrative that uptalks the wives as part of it, unlike the J2 hat ship, which calls them money grubbing beards. You have this backwards.
√ Complaining about SPN being about the Winchester brothers just isn’t a thing, fam. Now, literally every stan type gets pissy about the treatment of their character/actor, whether Destiel or not. If we lift the rock they hide under, Sam stans are eternally bitching that it isn’t enough Sam POV, Dean stans are eternally bitching about Dean being overpressed and yes, Cas fans often bitch about his application. Pretending to make this anything other than peak salty standom in all lanes shows you have blinkers on.
√ Lmao when people get as pissy about straight ship questions, like Megstiel, as any queer (and NOT TRIGGER CONTENT) ships, then we’ll talk your ship question point, though generally I advise people not to for their own well being, considering they tend to get violently attacked for doing so afterward.
√ Good luck about the canon thing. You may want to go have a talk with Bobo Berens. There’s this nagging thing where he’s gonna keep coming a bigger issue for your narrative like he has for the last five years, almost every episode. Godspeed.
√ Using the word “problematic” doesn’t make it problematic, if you’re just using it to sound buzzy and woke. Problematic is things like the deletionism of bisexual Dean content like Drowley, conflating arguments like claiming it’s because he turned evil/a demon, or everything displayed in the recent DreamHunter showdown. Because, again, Bobo Berens. Nice try though. A+ attempt on word usage.
√ Nobody erases Sam for Destiel. Fuck, there’s a goddamn Sam Knows hashtag about it. Also the #1 affiliated word with Sabriel is Destiel, because people want him to have a strong supporting relationship too. I’m not a Sabriel fan, but this is hilarious. If by “deletion” you mean “not exclusively glued only up Dean’s ass while Dean continues to get extended support that diversifies his plot application, then complain in the show that Sam isn’t getting enough plot,” sure, but you mispelled a hell of a lot of things then.
√ Nobody does that. Nobody bashes Jared for Cockles. Again, this is you confusing what J2 Tinhats do in a supreme display of projection and confusion about what’s going on. There’s a reason there’s videos like “shipper Jared” on the loose on youtube, and it’s not just about Destiel. Catch a clue.
√ You keep saying this about Destiel fans and Sam, and it’s simply not true. Again, Sam Knows is a huge thing, the memes about it are endless. Nobody thinks Sam is in the way. Because people with functioning brains not stuck in kink and fetishization land realize that a brother is by no means a threat to a romantic scenario. QED, that problem is only in your head.
√ So are we deleting him, erasing him, hating on him and saying he’s in the way, or making him a cheerleader? We hate our cheerleader? Gosh forbid anyone acknowledge that Sam acknowledges how deep the relationship, in whatever capacity, Dean has with Cas is. But acting like this is all we want is, again, hilarious. Sabriel’s affiliation. The rise of SamWitch to want to compel him into stories the way Ruby used to. The pure joy over Sam and Cas getting more time to bond and work together at the start of this season. You’re living in an echo chamber that tells you what this lane thinks, not observing what this lane actually thinks.
√ LMAO GUYS STRAIGHT ERASUREEEEEEEEEEE. I already covered how “problematic” this is above, but go off.
√ We don’t. We just make the Destiel things about Destiel. Like magic. Generally the same things antis turn around and scream at TPTB for being Too Destiel (despite it not existing, cuz logic?), or the things authors tell us were Destiel oriented – (Like you saw what we wanted you to see?) and the resulting thematics around that. Again, putting blinkers on doesn’t mean it’s not there. You can choose to stay in the dark all you want. That’s cool. Enjoy the parts of the show you like.
Man. Seriously though. THE PROJECTIONNNNNNNNNNNNNN
a note about sabriel:
it’s in like most destiel fics, like you mentioned. in fact, it’s so prevelant, it’s how i ended up shipping it. and from there it snowballed into other sam-pairings. even triads!
so saying we hate him and want to erase him or even just use him to further destiel is hilarious because we all want good things for him.
just so happens that we don’t want him unhealthily stuck to his brother’s side for forever
i honestly don’t see it as petty. just doing what you should do.
good tagging habits: tagging everyone that is in the post; character and actor, any ships involved, the show/game/movie/book it’s from, also good to add content type.
bad tagging habits: tagging things that have nothin to do with the content. for example: sabriel being tagged as wincest.
what i’m gleaning from… whatever this is… is that dean is going to struggle with figuring out his place in the bunker. his place in the family.
dean has always been the person in charge. he had to raise sam. he was duty bound by his father to protect his baby brother. the past 14 years, he’s been calling the shots. dean has been made to be the leader 100% of the time, by his father. by fate. he doesn’t know how to not be a leader.
when he comes home to people calling sam “sir” and “chief” and deferring to sam’s leadership and everyone still alive and healthy (tho lbr probably not getting as much good food because their chef was mia)… he’s not going to know what to do with himself. he’s going to feel useless because what he thought was his only role in life is being filled by his giant moose of a brother.
and dean winchester does not take orders (non-sexy ones, anyway) so him and sam’ll probably clash. maybe sam and cas team up to yell at him to rest, they got this. dean is going to end up feeling like that sitcoms mom that goes back to work and thinks the house can’t run without her but everyone seems to be doing ok and she feels unneeded.
i do predict, tho, that they figure it out fairly quickly in a way that doesn’t piss them both off for episodes on end, preferably.
this season seems to be tfw figuring out together through jack, shared son and mirror extraordinaire, that their worth isn’t in what their roles are supposed to be or their powers or what their skills are.
it’s in the people they love. they’re needed and worth something because they have family that care about them and need them alive because they’re them.
i just want everyone to be and do things because they want to. not because they have “no other choice”.
I largely agree with this, but I think there’s a few elements to consider with Dean.
The more teasers we get the more it looks like when Jensen said that Michael won’t be resolved as quickly as it looks like or as quickly as we think, or comments from Dabb about semi-possession, on top of Dean’s struggling to find his place in a shifting hierarchy, we may have him still dealing with Michael ramifications throughout the season, rather than flashbacks like we thought it would be.
Dean has always been one to nest. The bunker was his sacred space, his home, now it’s full of a bunch of people he doesn’t know that all look to Sam as a leader. Sam is no longer the little brother anymore and is finally getting a chance to grow up. Dean WILL struggle, like you said, with his place in things but I also worry about it doubling back into enduring issues as/with/about Michael, possibly still looming inside of Dean in some capacity.
It’s going to be an emotionally driven season, and we still need to figure out exactly where Nick and the Empty fall into this, too.
I am a bit confused. “His body’s sort of accumulated a lot of, I think, antibodies against evil, so he’ll be OK. He knows how to handle himself, even though he’s been altered. But there is a little bit of a surprise, in terms of this semi-possession, which I can’t tell you about. There’s a little bit of a twist.”Plus, this ordeal with Michael “doesn’t take as big a toll” on the hunter as, say, his experience in Hell did, the EP reveals, “because there’s something else that’s going to happen that will take a bigger toll on Dean, and he has to pay attention to that.”
So there is a hint for semi-possession and maybe there is a reason why we haven’t seen the clip where Dean actually said yes to Michael and how that all transpired.
Something else will take a bigger toll in Dean and it’s in regard to semi-possession, so maybe that has something to do with the Empty and also remember that Dean is scheduled to meet Death too.
A reasonable interpretation of the current commentary available, but not what I draw from it. Rather, I wonder if “semi-possession” is more what is upcoming after episode 2, such as residual/repressed Michael in Dean by some mechanic we don’t know yet; as in, for example, them opting to cooperate better to deal with a different threat brought to the surface or something we haven’t identified yet. This touches back on a Jensen quote during hiatus, which interview it was I can’t remember but it was a video one – where he mentions that the Michael situation won’t be as resolved as people will think it is. Dabb and co mentioned enduring effects through the season. We thought we’d be chasing flashbacks or something, but it could very easily be this. Under some mechanic we’re yet to discover Michael takes backseat again but becomes a rotating door situation more like Gadreel, perhaps, and why he isn’t ejected totally, we have to find out in the next few episodes as various new threats surface, since Michael himself is not the actual primary threat.
Edit: To clarify above reblog, I kinda brainfused Dabb’s comments about possession/residual effects and ERL’s comments about semi-possession, but hopefully my point is understood.
OH FUCK I JUST FIGURED IT OUT.
NICK. I WILL BET MONEY FOR REASONS UNKNOWN NICK WILL BE THE SURPRISING NEAR-DEATH.
Nick dies *for reasons* and Jack surprises *even himself* in choosing to save his life and then we end up with the fucking Empty in Nick somehow again *for reasons* and BuckLeming may very well be trying to think of how to have Lucifer piggyback out on that too while keeping it “fresh” with The Empty.
The death/rescue that surprises Jack and removes Cas from the equasion for a while will be Nick, probably panning into the Empty.
jack saving nick is very plausible. nick is wearing the face of his dead-beat father dna donor, after all (in a weird reverse of claire&cas).
but how would that take cas out of the equation? how will that make cas go off for Plot Related Reasons?
i’m honestly confused as to how that would work.
any ideas? i can accept jack saving nick because that makes sense from what we know of jack. he wants to be good. he doesn’t want innocent people to get hurt and he recognizes that nick is NOT lucifer.
but that being why cas has to go off to chase more Plot Things? idk, ya lost me there.
what i’m gleaning from… whatever this is… is that dean is going to struggle with figuring out his place in the bunker. his place in the family.
dean has always been the person in charge. he had to raise sam. he was duty bound by his father to protect his baby brother. the past 14 years, he’s been calling the shots. dean has been made to be the leader 100% of the time, by his father. by fate. he doesn’t know how to not be a leader.
when he comes home to people calling sam “sir” and “chief” and deferring to sam’s leadership and everyone still alive and healthy (tho lbr probably not getting as much good food because their chef was mia)… he’s not going to know what to do with himself. he’s going to feel useless because what he thought was his only role in life is being filled by his giant moose of a brother.
and dean winchester does not take orders (non-sexy ones, anyway) so him and sam’ll probably clash. maybe sam and cas team up to yell at him to rest, they got this. dean is going to end up feeling like that sitcoms mom that goes back to work and thinks the house can’t run without her but everyone seems to be doing ok and she feels unneeded.
i do predict, tho, that they figure it out fairly quickly in a way that doesn’t piss them both off for episodes on end, preferably.
this season seems to be tfw figuring out together through jack, shared son and mirror extraordinaire, that their worth isn’t in what their roles are supposed to be or their powers or what their skills are.
it’s in the people they love. they’re needed and worth something because they have family that care about them and need them alive because they’re them.
i just want everyone to be and do things because they want to. not because they have “no other choice”.
i found it on twitter…. i cant remember exactly where, i’m sorry.
as far as every season, possibly, but this is the first i’ve seen one.
i do want to make note, tho, that this isn’t officially anything. it’s kinda like jason fischer’s quote of the day from what i understand of it. it doesn’t necessarily relate to any storyline.
HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean that we can’t speculate and relate anyway. for example, there are a lot of artists/songwriters on that playlist that are famous bisexuals and, being a bi!dean fan myself, i’ve been flipping over it.
hope that clears things up as much as possible. if you have any other questions, definitely let me know!
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