would love if this show actually featured an out bi character instead of this high and mighty “you SHOULD be bi!” BS like hm. i WONDER who could make something like that happen????
Eleanor regularly remarks on the attractiveness of women around her and we’ve seen that she ended up with Tahani in some of the simulations so… do you need her to carry a tri-color flag or wear a rainbow colored t-shirt?
all of her references to being attracted to women get played as jokes and she ends up as tahani’s “soulmate” in a literal simulation designed to torture the four of them and even that you don’t see past tahani entering the room. that is piss poor bi representation.
i don’t need “her” to do anything, she is a fictional character. i need the literal showrunners to stop pulling cutesy shit like this line where they get points for being Progressive without actually showing any good bi representation (or any LGBT rep, for that matter)
she also ends up being chidis soulmate in the same similulation so i’m not seeing your issue with that
it’s a comedy. everything is treated like a joke. the difference in it being a joke where bi people are the butt of it and a joke where we’re in on it is something this show does well and i’m sorry you’ve been so burned by shows that you have to take it out on a good show.
there are a ton of serious, sweet moments in this show so the fact that all the references to eleanor being attracted to women are pulled for laffs should tell you something. i have laughed! i have found those tiny moments to be relatable and funny! that doesn’t make her a #bicon and it certainly doesn’t rise to the level of praising the showrunners for being soooo pro LGBT when they’re really just sprinkling bisexuality in (mostly dialog and not even visually) to cash in on a cultural moment without including it meaningfully
get over yourself. you don’t have to feel sorry for someone on the internet who sees a tv show differently than you do lmfao. the show will be fine regardless of me pointing out that it doesn’t have good lgbt representation.
”get over yourself”
actually, that’s something you should be telling yourself.
proper rep is important, but to yell about it on an a post that has nothing to do with activism is shitty and needless. on top of that, you’re yelling at other bis that love her
get over yourself and if you hate the show, don’t fucking watch it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
you sought out my comment on a post on my blog and decided to respond to me instead of just going on your merry way enjoying the show. if you wanna enjoy content without critique…don’t engage with the critiques and live your life lol
i didn’t seek it out, it was in my notifications so be mad at tumblr
i critique my shows all the time. literally a thing that happens quite a lot
i just don’t see why we queers gotta have super serious storylines all the damn time? we can be goofs like eleanor. and idk if you missed this past episode, but there was nothing wrong with how they portrayed her queerness.
seriously if you aren’t enjoying it, stop watching it. all it’s going to do is piss you off.
know what i did when i wasn’t enjoying oitb? i stopped fucking watching it.
would love if this show actually featured an out bi character instead of this high and mighty “you SHOULD be bi!” BS like hm. i WONDER who could make something like that happen????
Eleanor regularly remarks on the attractiveness of women around her and we’ve seen that she ended up with Tahani in some of the simulations so… do you need her to carry a tri-color flag or wear a rainbow colored t-shirt?
all of her references to being attracted to women get played as jokes and she ends up as tahani’s “soulmate” in a literal simulation designed to torture the four of them and even that you don’t see past tahani entering the room. that is piss poor bi representation.
i don’t need “her” to do anything, she is a fictional character. i need the literal showrunners to stop pulling cutesy shit like this line where they get points for being Progressive without actually showing any good bi representation (or any LGBT rep, for that matter)
she also ends up being chidis soulmate in the same similulation so i’m not seeing your issue with that
it’s a comedy. everything is treated like a joke. the difference in it being a joke where bi people are the butt of it and a joke where we’re in on it is something this show does well and i’m sorry you’ve been so burned by shows that you have to take it out on a good show.
there are a ton of serious, sweet moments in this show so the fact that all the references to eleanor being attracted to women are pulled for laffs should tell you something. i have laughed! i have found those tiny moments to be relatable and funny! that doesn’t make her a #bicon and it certainly doesn’t rise to the level of praising the showrunners for being soooo pro LGBT when they’re really just sprinkling bisexuality in (mostly dialog and not even visually) to cash in on a cultural moment without including it meaningfully
get over yourself. you don’t have to feel sorry for someone on the internet who sees a tv show differently than you do lmfao. the show will be fine regardless of me pointing out that it doesn’t have good lgbt representation.
”get over yourself”
actually, that’s something you should be telling yourself.
proper rep is important, but to yell about it on an a post that has nothing to do with activism is shitty and needless. on top of that, you’re yelling at other bis that love her
get over yourself and if you hate the show, don’t fucking watch it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
would love if this show actually featured an out bi character instead of this high and mighty “you SHOULD be bi!” BS like hm. i WONDER who could make something like that happen????
Eleanor regularly remarks on the attractiveness of women around her and we’ve seen that she ended up with Tahani in some of the simulations so… do you need her to carry a tri-color flag or wear a rainbow colored t-shirt?
all of her references to being attracted to women get played as jokes and she ends up as tahani’s “soulmate” in a literal simulation designed to torture the four of them and even that you don’t see past tahani entering the room. that is piss poor bi representation.
i don’t need “her” to do anything, she is a fictional character. i need the literal showrunners to stop pulling cutesy shit like this line where they get points for being Progressive without actually showing any good bi representation (or any LGBT rep, for that matter)
she also ends up being chidis soulmate in the same similulation so i’m not seeing your issue with that
it’s a comedy. everything is treated like a joke. the difference in it being a joke where bi people are the butt of it and a joke where we’re in on it is something this show does well and i’m sorry you’ve been so burned by shows that you have to take it out on a good show.
Someone tagged Neil Gaiman on my post and now I live in fear. Behind every like there is maybe Neil Gaiman. Every reblog could be Neil Gaiman. Are you Neil Gaiman? No? Well that’s something Neil Gaiman would say.
✗ STOP harassing SPN actors on the show over your ship ✗ STOP bashing Jensen Ackles for not supporting your ship ✗ STOP bullying, threatening and harassing other shippers within the SPN fandom for not shipping or supporting Destiel ✗ STOP invading other shipper tags that isn’t the Destiel tag ✗ STOP bullying and harassing the SPN writers over your ship ✗ STOP calling Jensen Ackles homophobic for not shipping/liking Destiel ✗ STOP bashing J2′s families (including their kids) for not supporting Destiel ✗ STOP complaining about Supernatural being about the Winchester brothers ✗ STOP asking Destiel questions or ship-related questions to actors at cons ✗ STOP trying to push for Destiel to become canon on the show (because it’s NEVER going to happen) ✗ STOP disrespecting people for not supporting your ship ✗ STOP using Destiel as a tool for LGBTQ+ representation on television (it’s very problematic, especially when the characters are canonically not gay to begin with) ✗ STOP trying to erase Sam and Dean’s relationship and bond to suit Destiel ✗ STOP forcing others into trying to ship Destiel ✗ STOP harassing Jensen on social media (Twitter AND Facebook) by insulting him and sending him death threats just because he doesn’t ship or support Destiel ✗ STOP erasing Sam Winchester from the show or the narrative to prop up Destiel ✗ STOP bashing Jared Padalecki for getting in the way of “Cockles” ✗ STOP bashing Sam Winchester because you feel he gets in the way of Destiel happening ✗ STOP making Sam Winchester a cheerleader for Destiel on the show ✗ STOP erasing Dean Winchester’s canon sexuality (which is straight or heterosexual) in order to cater to your ship ✗ STOP making everything that happens on the show about Destiel
✗ JUST STOP.
DESTIEL EXISTS
Let me get this straight.
1. We DON’T harrass Spn actors over our ship. If someone from the destiel fandom ever does so ( chances are nearly zero), we got the guts to effectively call them out.
2. We DON’T bully their wives and their family because they dont support our ship or whatever. THIS, in fact is the primary characteristic of the J2 tinhats who hate on Danneel, Gen, Misha and even JJ.
3. We DON’T “erase” Sam from the narrative to prop up our ship. INFACT, every good Destiel fanfic I’ve read has a very well structured storyline for Sam. AND, most of the destiel shippers ADORE Sam( I mean, who doesn’t right!?). Just because the i*cest shippers tend to exclude Cas and hate on Misha doesn’t mean WE, the destiel shippers stoop down to their level. Pff.
4. We don’t make everything that happens on the show about destiel. Destiel is literally ingrained on the depths of the show. Its there. Its in the canon. Whether or not one can see it, the facts remain. Idc,ship whatever you want ( except incest and pedophilia) but please stop trying to invalidate other’s ships.
5. Basically what Im trying to say is, get your facts straight. And we’re good.
I mean, I don’t know what else to add. The projection here is STRONG.
√ We don’t harass the crew, In fact, whenever antis see it get “too Destiel” in the show, they pour into TPTB’s mentions yelling about pandering. Like, something supposedly doesn’t exist, but is there enough to yell about pandering. Doublecheck.
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√ Uh, we don’t? In fact, we generally defend him and say it’s antis choosing to spin his quotes entirely out of context and paint him in a bad light to future studios in an increasingly queer-positive culture? There’s a few outliers in FakeWoke, which may at times have overlap with Destiel fans, since Destiel fandom is so huge, but we call them out and shut them down. Don’t get it all twisted in your head.
√ “Stop invading other ship tags,” says the wing of the fandom that compulsively can’t stop shitposting into the Destiel fandom tag bitching about nonsensical trash for a week, with no actual receipts of anyone invading any fandom tags. The closest I’ve seen is someone losing their shit about a post I tagged #megstiel critical, which apparently puts it into the #megstiel tag cuz reasons (and despite my disclaimer that I don’t tumblr often and know all the rodeo rules, everybody planted in their head as some sinister plan to piss them off, because you guys literally can’t stop ship warring), which wasn’t even Destielcentric, but used each other as a foil against themselves in dual narrative painting. With an extra disclaimer. And a cut. Meaning people can choose to open it or not. Self care is in your ballpark, m8.
√ Again, we don’t. That would be the antis and tinhats. See
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√ Again, we don’t. That would be the antis and tinhats. See above reply. It’s funny that y’all can’t separate your horse shit when at the same time tinhats just cocked up a huge (bullshit) narrative about Destiel fans “pretending” to be wife fans in some Misha-led conspiracy, because it’s public knowledge their wives are adored. Even this side of the fence’s tinhat ship (of which I am not part) has an inclusive narrative that uptalks the wives as part of it, unlike the J2 hat ship, which calls them money grubbing beards. You have this backwards.
√ Complaining about SPN being about the Winchester brothers just isn’t a thing, fam. Now, literally every stan type gets pissy about the treatment of their character/actor, whether Destiel or not. If we lift the rock they hide under, Sam stans are eternally bitching that it isn’t enough Sam POV, Dean stans are eternally bitching about Dean being overpressed and yes, Cas fans often bitch about his application. Pretending to make this anything other than peak salty standom in all lanes shows you have blinkers on.
√ Lmao when people get as pissy about straight ship questions, like Megstiel, as any queer (and NOT TRIGGER CONTENT) ships, then we’ll talk your ship question point, though generally I advise people not to for their own well being, considering they tend to get violently attacked for doing so afterward.
√ Good luck about the canon thing. You may want to go have a talk with Bobo Berens. There’s this nagging thing where he’s gonna keep coming a bigger issue for your narrative like he has for the last five years, almost every episode. Godspeed.
√ Using the word “problematic” doesn’t make it problematic, if you’re just using it to sound buzzy and woke. Problematic is things like the deletionism of bisexual Dean content like Drowley, conflating arguments like claiming it’s because he turned evil/a demon, or everything displayed in the recent DreamHunter showdown. Because, again, Bobo Berens. Nice try though. A+ attempt on word usage.
√ Nobody erases Sam for Destiel. Fuck, there’s a goddamn Sam Knows hashtag about it. Also the #1 affiliated word with Sabriel is Destiel, because people want him to have a strong supporting relationship too. I’m not a Sabriel fan, but this is hilarious. If by “deletion” you mean “not exclusively glued only up Dean’s ass while Dean continues to get extended support that diversifies his plot application, then complain in the show that Sam isn’t getting enough plot,” sure, but you mispelled a hell of a lot of things then.
√ Nobody does that. Nobody bashes Jared for Cockles. Again, this is you confusing what J2 Tinhats do in a supreme display of projection and confusion about what’s going on. There’s a reason there’s videos like “shipper Jared” on the loose on youtube, and it’s not just about Destiel. Catch a clue.
√ You keep saying this about Destiel fans and Sam, and it’s simply not true. Again, Sam Knows is a huge thing, the memes about it are endless. Nobody thinks Sam is in the way. Because people with functioning brains not stuck in kink and fetishization land realize that a brother is by no means a threat to a romantic scenario. QED, that problem is only in your head.
√ So are we deleting him, erasing him, hating on him and saying he’s in the way, or making him a cheerleader? We hate our cheerleader? Gosh forbid anyone acknowledge that Sam acknowledges how deep the relationship, in whatever capacity, Dean has with Cas is. But acting like this is all we want is, again, hilarious. Sabriel’s affiliation. The rise of SamWitch to want to compel him into stories the way Ruby used to. The pure joy over Sam and Cas getting more time to bond and work together at the start of this season. You’re living in an echo chamber that tells you what this lane thinks, not observing what this lane actually thinks.
√ LMAO GUYS STRAIGHT ERASUREEEEEEEEEEE. I already covered how “problematic” this is above, but go off.
√ We don’t. We just make the Destiel things about Destiel. Like magic. Generally the same things antis turn around and scream at TPTB for being Too Destiel (despite it not existing, cuz logic?), or the things authors tell us were Destiel oriented – (Like you saw what we wanted you to see?) and the resulting thematics around that. Again, putting blinkers on doesn’t mean it’s not there. You can choose to stay in the dark all you want. That’s cool. Enjoy the parts of the show you like.
Man. Seriously though. THE PROJECTIONNNNNNNNNNNNNN
a note about sabriel:
it’s in like most destiel fics, like you mentioned. in fact, it’s so prevelant, it’s how i ended up shipping it. and from there it snowballed into other sam-pairings. even triads!
so saying we hate him and want to erase him or even just use him to further destiel is hilarious because we all want good things for him.
just so happens that we don’t want him unhealthily stuck to his brother’s side for forever
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