oodlenoodleroodle:

zurizaldun:

lietliet:

zurizaldun:

cisnowflake:

Upholding federal law makes you a fascist I guess. 

Having borders is fascistic. 

Actually, it’s the rounding up people in the middle of the night (sometimes ripping them from their families, often rounding up citizens by mistake too) and detaining them in cramped prisons in the middle of the desert indefinitely with no contact with anyone, or any hope of a trial, that is fascist. 

Source?

Sure thing:

ICE separates families: http://immigrationimpact.com/2014/06/26/thousands-of-u-s-citizen-children-separated-from-parents-ice-records-show/

ICE detains and deports U.S. citizens: http://jacquelinestevens.org/StevensVSP18.32011.pdf

A bit about the legal wranglings over indefinite detention (on paper supposed to be 30 days but can be several years held without trial): http://harvardcrcl.org/detained-without-due-process-is-indefinite-immigration-detention-unconstitutional/#_ftn1

A bit about conditions in ICE detention facilities: https://www.aclu.org/other/conditions-confinement-immigrant-detention-facilities

Legal advice for those detained, I found the comment that “ It might be difficult and expensive to make phone calls from a detention facility … (some) allow detainees to make collect calls only (so that the recipient must agree to pay for the call before you are connected to them).” a bit morally repugnant, personally. I admit I did not find evidence that being held incommunicado is prevalent:  http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/living-conditions-immigration-detention-centers.html

For more about the human rights abuses of ICE, the ACLU has a few resources: https://www.aclu.org/search/%20?f%5B0%5D=field_issues%3A272&f%5B1%5D=type%3Ablog

I spent 30-40 minutes researching this post, if you’re going to respond, please do me the courtesy of reading at least one of these sources. 

I mean cisnowflake kinda was right, upholding laws that are horribly morally wrong and unjust is also pretty fascist. How many nazis claimed they were just “doing as they were told and whoops a genocide happened but totes not my fault”?